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I’m deeply offended that you didn’t mention the spy =) I think a lot of the time the fantasies of dumb players involve that one killer backstab on the medic with 100% charge, which they attempt to get by walking up to said medic disguised as them. Then there’s look of horror on their face when it’s full of Ubersaw. I’d say a dumb engineer or dumb sniper is far more useful on a team than a dumb spy. Just my tuppence worth.